THAT! would be a project in its self unless you owned your truck out right the cost to do a conversion like that would probably be very high! and to do it right you would be almost better better off just to buy the Raptor, with all the warranties (yes they are going to cover it)you would be ahead of the game, Ive looked into what it would take and after you replaced the whole under carriage rear axle included it came to around 23K to do it right, how ever there is two parts of good news! Fox is developing a set of Raptor style triple bypass, position sensing Shocks that will bolt to the 08-09 F150's that have been tested and are in production soon to be released, NOW here is some other good news I will have a set of these shocks to test soon, and I need somebody with a 08-09 FX4 to install them and test them, also you will have to tape and take pics of the install and return feed back for Fox, ( I will get back to you all on the details of this when they ship them to me)Sign into www.f150mania.com leave your name and contact info if your interested, Now for some other good news (we hope) Ive been researching the Raptor since Jan of 09 talking to Ford and there SVT Team, they are kinda vague about this but..... according to everything I could find out is this.... The Ford F150 Raptor is based on the Standard F150 08-09 Frame,with the only changes being, the shock mounts have been redone for the new FOX SHOX and the rear frame rails are spread slightly to make room for the bigger spare tire! so if that' right then if you owned a 08 or 09 it could be done! BUT ( and its a big BUT) there have been changes to the drive train, like they are using the rear axle from the trucks that are built for MEXICO, they are thicker with 34 spline HD shafts and are wider. The front dif. is basically the same with new CV half shafts, bigger and more flexible. and what ever else they have changed that we don't know yet. but for your application I don't think so keep in mind you will have to replace both upper and lower arms too, but there should some after market folks who have some longer A-arms for you truck. any other questions email me an I'll get back to you.
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23k?!?!?! RAPE! is that just for the suspension components? i highly doubt youll have to pull a 23k loan to build that. i just dont see that being the case. unless ur buying crate axles, and paying a fabricator to build it
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most would pay to have it done the job would be beyond what and average back yard mechanic can do lest you forget things like new fenders front and rear or flares (cheap) how do extend a rear Axel 3 inches on each side (new Axel) oh and you'll need new front axles, High angle CV syle because they moved the shock mounts and lest we for get the new fox shocks $$$$$ to match. and a new drive line for the Ive checked with for about the cost of there new rear axle with the locker installed and disc brakes on again new shock mount locations thats one third of the cost alone! and we are just getting started, new wheels tires on and on and on from the sound of it You've never built a full up score truck before I wold venture to bet you that if you think your going to build this truck for say 10 grand that you will run out of budget before yo get out of the garage. and after you got done (if you finished it)that you would be real close if not over 20K and the biggest slap in the face is you will never get your money back out of it! just buy the truck its the way beetr way to go and there is more Paint, for the new fenders front and rear longer bake lines more more more it just keeps going lol start checking prices if yo can find the parts and yes you ned to count your time to do this why? because somebody will ask you how long it took and your time is worth something right?
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most would pay to have it done the job would be beyond what and average back yard mechanic can do lest you forget things like new fenders front and rear or flares (cheap) how do extend a rear Axel 3 inches on each side (new Axel) oh and you'll need new front axles, High angle CV syle because they moved the shock mounts and lest we for get the new fox shocks $$$$$ to match. and a new drive line for the Ive checked with for about the cost of there new rear axle with the locker installed and disc brakes on again new shock mount locations thats one third of the cost alone! and we are just getting started, new wheels tires on and on and on from the sound of it You've never built a full up score truck before I wold venture to bet you that if you think your going to build this truck for say 10 grand that you will run out of budget before yo get out of the garage. and after you got done (if you finished it)that you would be real close if not over 20K and the biggest slap in the face is you will never get your money back out of it! just buy the truck its the way beetr way to go and there is more Paint, for the new fenders front and rear longer bake lines more more more it just keeps going lol start checking prices if yo can find the parts and yes you ned to count your time to do this why? because somebody will ask you how long it took and your time is worth something right?
lol. are u serious? do u know me? how do u know wat i have worked one? yes i have done SEVERAL vehicles. u see my little friend, my second job is working on off road vehicles so i believe i have more than enough ability to do so. have done several s.a.s and wheelbase stretches. 01 chevy b;azer zr2 for example: 9in rear with 31 spline chrom'd shafts detroitlocker 4.88, rear end (just grenaded last weekend when rompin. actually dented the housing outwards). dana 44 front chrom'd shafts, spooled (just broke stub shaft 3 weeks ago). 6.0L v8 w/ 230/237 cam, ls9 valve springs with air push rods, 150 NOS, pushin about 580hp (not yet dyno'd). 4:1 transer w/ wide chain. 42" tires. full exo cage. too many access too list. since the axles were the weak links we went and picked up some rockwells sunday and acutally striped them down last night. (those would be 2.5 ton axles incase ur wondering. rear axles weight-700lbs. fornt axle weight-800lbs). competition beadlocks. flippin the hubs on the rocks to give the axle width 54". runnin pinion brake (f drums)
my 95 yj- stock motor and trans (i know right. just need more $) 4:1 np231 tranfercase. dana 60 rear with 4.88 r&p. spooled. dana 60 front with 4.88, ox locker. wheelbase is streched to 110". aluminum rear mounted fuel tank. custom roll cage. many many other accessories.
yes all our vehicles are built by us as well as fab work. axles are overhauled and not bs crate bought. we buy, strip, rebuild the axles to insure they're stronger and get the exact set up we want. so go ahead and buy ur crate axles and everything else. real rigs are built, not bought. so u take ur 23k and ill take my 10k
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f150Beard u still there? alive? surprised not to see any kind of rebutle with you tryin to list more figures and tryin to throw them in my face. i reckon you were just one of those guys who cruised the internet and copy and pasted info to try to intelligent and act like u know more than other people. in that instance, i'm sorry i had to shut you up . but this is a thread about getting information. i know i dont know everything about everything, hell i dont know a lot. but the worst mistake u can make is acting like u know it all. but if u want any info on doing an sfa, gimme a holler
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nope still here sure glad you have so much knowledge you got the job when do you want to start? how much do you get for a shortened dana 60 with all the the mods you do? bet installed it's pretty close to what a good Curry set up would cost huh? and do you really think that all cart product are crap? Im sure there are a few that would take offense to that, as far as all the great stuff you can do, how much do you charge your buddies or do you do all the work for free. Im no spring chicken and have been running and building Fords sense the early 60's probably before you were a gleam in your daddies eye, I've beem around and worked with guys like Holman and Moody EJ Potter, big daddy Don, Don Woodard local FE legend and others built 4x4 ford trucks, boats, sand rails and even some 302 small blocks for home built airplanes, built the first Toyota mini 4x4 trucks in Medford Ore in the 1970's having advance adapters machine an adapter to mate the two drive trains together using CJ5 front axles before the manufactures got smart We had to build our own transfer cases because nobody had one strong enough for our 700plus hp Fe wedge head or tunnel port FE's we used in our sand dragsters in Coos Bay Ore so I'm glad your so talented and can do all the stuff But that don't do poor old bubba any good unless your going to help him for free. so even though your knowledge is great your posturing to me is wasted effort I can't remember the number of times I have bought half finished projects that were under funded and taken on by some young guy that has listened to an EXPERT like you that says he can do it. it can be done! only to fail and loose gobs if money. Even with your level of intelligence you have to know the you need to caution these guys on what they are about to undertake, you do us both no justice because you know what I say is right! but Im sure your self pride will stop you from being truth full sorry there DUDE and at last you did'nt shut me up I just figure its useless to converse with and ego maniac not worth to much time or effort. you know not who your talking to my friend I am well past your age of knowledge and own several parts sites for Fords and Ford trucks you have no knowledge more Than I but Ive got 45 years of ford truck experience on top of that sooo? is your shop for sale?
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nope still here sure glad you have so much knowledge you got the job when do you want to start? how much do you get for a shortened dana 60 with all the the mods you do? bet installed it's pretty close to what a good Curry set up would cost huh? and do you really think that all cart product are crap? Im sure there are a few that would take offense to that, as far as all the great stuff you can do, how much do you charge your buddies or do you do all the work for free. Im no spring chicken and have been running and building Fords sense the early 60's probably before you were a gleam in your daddies eye, I've beem around and worked with guys like Holman and Moody EJ Potter, big daddy Don, Don Woodard local FE legend and others built 4x4 ford trucks, boats, sand rails and even some 302 small blocks for home built airplanes, built the first Toyota mini 4x4 trucks in Medford Ore in the 1970's having advance adapters machine an adapter to mate the two drive trains together using CJ5 front axles before the manufactures got smart We had to build our own transfer cases because nobody had one strong enough for our 700plus hp Fe wedge head or tunnel port FE's we used in our sand dragsters in Coos Bay Ore so I'm glad your so talented and can do all the stuff But that don't do poor old bubba any good unless your going to help him for free. so even though your knowledge is great your posturing to me is wasted effort I can't remember the number of times I have bought half finished projects that were under funded and taken on by some young guy that has listened to an EXPERT like you that says he can do it. it can be done! only to fail and loose gobs if money. Even with your level of intelligence you have to know the you need to caution these guys on what they are about to undertake, you do us both no justice because you know what I say is right! but Im sure your self pride will stop you from being truth full sorry there DUDE and at last you did'nt shut me up I just figure its useless to converse with and ego maniac not worth to much time or effort. you know not who your talking to my friend I am well past your age of knowledge and own several parts sites for Fords and Ford trucks you have no knowledge more Than I but Ive got 45 years of ford truck experience on top of that sooo? is your shop for sale?
first off:
Chris6418 said: " but this is a thread about getting information. i know i dont know everything about everything, hell i dont know a lot. but the worst mistake u can make is acting like u know it all. but if u want any info on doing an sfa, gimme a holler "
congrats, DUDE, you just furthered my point.
and WOW.....u've done a lot. u even put a doubler in a mini truck. never heard about that before....never seen one....never built several. u my friend are truly amazing. let me stop. i dont want to start sounding like u for this isnt getting under my skin like it is urs. gongrats on ur succes on ur mechanics. however why do u feel as a man with 40 yrs more xp (as u believe) that u feel the need to bash on anyone esp another mechanic/fabricator? odd..... i dont know it all (like ive said) however i know I can build one for a lot cheaper. and i never talked about building it for anyone but myself (and never instructed anyone here to do so either) HOWEVER.... with the knowledge it can easily be built (and stronger) for less than the price u listed. the crate axles you speak off are great products without a doubt. however 98% of all crate axles can be built to the same exact standard as they are, by u or anyone alse that can overhaul one. however ur buying the parts and do the labor urself. therefore ur cutting out the middle man. and as you know, mechanics work for a decent rate. espeacially, good mechanics and fabricators. but like i said- ill take my 10-15k while u walk with ur 23k.
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. but this is a thread about getting information. i know i dont know everything about everything, hell i dont know a lot. but the worst mistake u can make is acting like u know it all. but if u want any info on doing an sfa, gimme a holler 
