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Screw07 Regular Member

Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 65 My Photos Truck Mods From: Montreal Truck: 2007 4X4 SuperCrew
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: XCAL-Tuners. |
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Hey guys i thought i would share this with you.. got this from another forum... thought it could clear up some things on tuners.
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...........(please note that the contact information down belown for mike Troyer has changed...)
There is one primary reason that most people here using a performance chip are using the Superchip, and that is the fact that it's the only product of it's kind that works *all* the time, and not just at (WOT) wide-open throttle. The reason for this is what I call a little-known "loophole" in the emissions laws. Even for a brand new 2000 vehicle like yours, during WOT operation, there are no emissions standards to be met. So if you as a chipmaker only modify WOT parameters, then you reduce your R&D costs dramatically, you don't have to certify for emissions compliance, etc. It also yields a product that does not add any power until you are at full-throttle, and that cannot improve gas mileage, driveability, or any of the many other things that the Superchip can do.
Superchips is the original *inventor* of this whole concept of a "power chip", back in 1983, and they are the only chipmaker that is hired directly by any automaker ever, and they are used by many of the major automakers, including Ford of Europe, Porsche, Rover, Honda, Renault, etc.
It's easy to add power at WOT; it's much harder to actually increase power at *all* throttle positions, and to actually improve overall driveability. And driveability is Superchips' primary focus in all their products.
Another point is that many, though not all, other similar products require that you use their special thermostat too, an abnormally cold thermostat, and the Superchip does not. In fact, we recommend that you do not go below 180 degrees, if you change it at all. The Superchip is a stand-alone product that works all by itself, and is designed to be used with the factory thermostat in your vehicle.
Some of the other products on the market are simple data interceptors, that alter the incoming sensor data to trick the computer into thinking it's colder outside than it really is, and thus cause additional spark advance and fuel to be used. A lot of JET's products are of this kind, for example. This is a poor technique, as it doesn't actually reprogram the computer at all. It can add a few horsepower under the right circumstances, but nothing like a real chip that reprograms the computer will.
Another point is the fact that Superchips does not make any "generic" chips like other chipmakers do. We program each vehicle individually, according to the exact software revision they were shipped with from the factory. So when you buy a Superchip, what you get is a chip that is optimized for *your* vehicle, and not something that is a compromise for all similar vehivcles of that model year.
When you add it all up, what you get with the Superchip is a product made by the people that invented the business, and made specifically for *your* individual vehicle, that works all the time. The Superchip doesn't add enough power to turn a 5000 lb. truck into a tire-shredder, for most vehicles it is about a 10-12% increase in peak horsepower, so that's what you can reasonable expect it to do for you.
Now of course since we sell the Superchip, we recommend it. But when you sit down and carefully compare whose product does exactly what, and at what price, the Superchip is the choice most people make.
Superchips is an engineering-driven company; most other chipmakers are marketing-driven. There are a couple other chipmakers I do like, whose programming abilities I think a lot of, but they don't make products for Fords. I'm speaking specifically of Dinan, the BMW speciality tuner who has been making chips for BMW's and some of the more exotic Asian vehicles, such as Infiniti, Lexus, etc. They too, focus primarily on driveability, so anytime a customer comes to us with a vehicle that we don't make aproduct for, if Dinan makes one I will always refer them to Dinan, as I feel comfortable about what they do and how they do it.
I hope this information is helpful to you,
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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com _________________ At first you cant beleive the gas it guzzles down.
then you become used to it
then you finally realize, driving it... is a sport.
Last edited by Screw07 on Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:34 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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anaheim_drew Senior Member


Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 951 My Photos Truck Mods From: Anaheim California Truck: 2005 F-150 Supercharged Supercrew
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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Where you got your information is a great source, look me up
Also make sure the information you are using is current. Mike sells Superchips but Xcal2,3 from SCTFlash is his bread and butter
I looked at your post again, that information is very old.......1999 maybe |
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Screw07 Regular Member

Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 65 My Photos Truck Mods From: Montreal Truck: 2007 4X4 SuperCrew
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah exactly Drew 1999, you know your stuff
it explains well how all these different tuners work and how it affects the trucks brain. |
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